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Chivalry versus Equality

Chivalry versus Equality

Paying your way

by US Staff (Tue Nov 03, 2009)
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You would think that dating, and the politics attached, would get simpler as you get older and more confident. But actually, I think it gets more complex.

When I dated the first time around, it was very straightforward. I was broke, so when it came time for the check to be paid, I never considered reaching for my credit card. I expected my date to pay. Whatever he might have chosen to believe, his paying had no bearing on whether he was getting lucky that night. He paid and I made my determination of his entrance into the promised land on other, more important factors - primarily, what he looked like and how horny I was.

This time around, I consider all of the nuances of a date more carefully. If I am on a first date and I decide that I don't really like the guy, well, then he pays. It's the least he can do to make up for the colossal wasting of my time. If I do like the guy, I will offer to pay or split it. If he refuses, I will put up a fight or insist on buying the after dinner drinks or dessert somewhere different. After all, he probably is going to get some that night and I don't want him to think that I have a price tag.

Finally, if I am actually seeing someone, over an extended period, well then I try and do as much for him as he does for me, as I have worked hard to be independent and I like to convey that. But, I am still truly flattered by the man who knows this and insists on paying anyway.

See what I mean about it getting more complex?

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Chloe
Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 at 10:05 pm Reply Delete
I agree with Rickie J. Keep it 50/50 and then there are no problems.Report Abuse
Boba Phat
Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 at 3:55 pm Reply Delete
Women like you are a complete waste of flesh. Please either grow up or kill yourself.Report Abuse
1 reply, Last reply by Toni on Wed Nov 4, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 at 8:37 pm Reply Delete
@Noname: Erm, can we have an IQ minimum standard for commenters on PRG please!Report Abuse
Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 at 5:01 pm Reply Delete
I think we need to take this piece with the humour it's intended - well done you! I have actually written a yet to be submitted piece on this (watch this space) but personally feel it's an easy decision: 50/50 every time or take turns. Although I like that you made the boasting guy pay!Report Abuse
Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 at 5:15 pm Reply Delete
I'm dating again (occasionally) and have done a few dates from dating web-sites - normally only do coffee for the first date (to avoid the colossal waste of time) but if we do get on and decide to go for dinner then it's 50/50 that first time at least. Except for the prat who kept boasting about his wealth. That time I let him pick up the tab! Here in the UK women have been equal for a long time and we have always known that chivalry depends on a lot more than paying for someone's dinner!Report Abuse
1 reply, Last reply by Rickie J on Wed Nov 4, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 at 4:59 pm Reply Delete
@Annia Lindsay: well said!Report Abuse
Posted Wed Nov 4, 2009 at 1:20 am Reply Delete
I think I'm glad I'm not single. I have some single friends and dating in your 50's does get tricky.Report Abuse
Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 at 4:06 pm Reply Delete
Ooooh - some serious sense of humo(u)r failure going on here. I had to laugh at Unknown Marine's comment though. Yes the guys did all the fighting, back-breaking jobs and what not - possibly because we weren't allowed to? You made that bed buster.Report Abuse
2 replies, Last reply by Toni on Tue Nov 3, 2009 at 9:49 pm
UnknownMarine
Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 at 4:17 pm Reply Delete
@Toni : I'm sure once we pull out and the afghani women go back to being treated as property, denied the right to vote or recieve an education they will be laughing too....Report Abuse
Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 at 9:49 pm Reply Delete
@Noname: Don't insult Afghan women by pretending anyone went in to help them. The N.O.W. campaigned for years against the Taliban and tried to heighten awareness of their treatment of women only to be either totally ignored or harangued. It wasn't until George Bush needed a cover that anyone was even aware of their plight. And if the US was genuinely interested in helping such women they'd be in India where it was reported only this week on TV that an increasing number of young girls are setting themselves on fire as the only way to get out of arranged marriages. which put them in total servitude. Or perhaps the Congo, where mothers iron their young teenage daughters chests flat (yes) to try to prevent men from molesting them. (It doesn't work by the way and many of the girls' burns become fatally infected.) I'm sure the original post here was meant to be light-hearted, but I can't let your sexist comments go unanswered. Especially on this site.Report Abuse
ZeMan
Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 at 5:02 pm Reply Delete
Wow. I mean it, just wow. This is really how you run your love life? No wonder you are still single at your age.Report Abuse
MaryH
Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 at 4:29 pm Reply Delete
OMG, lighten up everyone.Report Abuse
J
Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 at 3:59 pm Reply Delete
I have to agree with W here. Women think they should be treated so well on first dates but rarely reciprocate. It is women like you that are a colossal waste of time. You are not after a good guy, you are after one that looks good on your arm that you can use as a peon.Report Abuse
Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 at 3:58 pm Reply Delete
Hmm, fighting talk here, US Staff. Being a ghastly little pleaser (we're talking clothes ON here, honey!) it wouldn't cross my mind to EXPECT someone else to pay in what strikes me as quite a mercenary way. You're both equal so why should you decide who's the time-waster???Report Abuse
UnknownMarine
Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 at 3:53 pm Reply Delete
Wow, I love your sense of entitlement you have there. You ever stop to wonder if YOU might be the guy's colossal waste of time? Probably not. Us guys are used to doing all the fighting, dieing, and backbreaking jobs, and never expect a free lunch. Untill you can say the same or change your golddigger mentality don't even presume to speak to me about chivalry nor equality. Semper Fi USMCReport Abuse
Marisa S.
Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 at 3:44 pm Reply Delete
Wait until you're 50.Report Abuse
W
Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 at 3:40 pm Reply Delete
Chivalry is dead, and women like you killed it.Report Abuse
Domingo
Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 at 3:38 pm Reply Delete
And women wonder why they're generally thought of as shallow gold diggers.Report Abuse
Posted Tue Nov 3, 2009 at 1:12 pm Reply Delete
Do things get more complicated as we get older I wonder - or do we just think about them more?...Report Abuse

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